I am going to play more too. Thinking of what type of photo works best and doing two different edits maybe. Also, I would like to further learn about masking from a layer. I would actually like to have a full black layer then bring back what I want (with white). Using the Mask from image made a strange looking mask that wasn't either white or black, so I need to play with that some more too. it's hard to see the little thumnail of it. Either way, I did something with masks that I've never done and was really happy that I might be on the cusp of learning something new. It's kind of what PS does in the tutorials I watch (usually I'm watching a photo tutorial and then they do an edit of the photo afterwards ; lightroom then in PS to use layers and masks). I know there is a way to do it in PaintShopPro, just need to learn. More than that, I really need a good understanding of it. It's easy to say; black conceals and white reveals, but to really understand it is what I'm after. Teachers always make it look so easy don't they.