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Lesson 6 part 2

I wanted to see what happens on letters like "i" and "j" to see if the script will do the dot on the I.  It sure does, I guess because the character is both of those elements.  This script is really fun and addictive.  

The second thing I wanted to know.  How thick or thin can the stroke be?  I tested 5 px and 20 px and makes no visual difference to me.  The reason for this test is so I can duplicate the vector and have a layer that has a stroke and no fill.  And the bottom Vector layer has a fill and a very small 1-5 px stroke.  That gave me the opportunity to to be able to reduce the opacity of the vector layer with the fill, and be able to manipulate the stroke layer on it's own.  One issue that came up with the font (is the pipe cleaner can't make such a bend as shown, so the stroke showed through).  It was an easy fix as I had the stroked object layer to use, I just hid the Vector outline layer and it was gone.  I really like this lesson.

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1 hour ago, Susan Ewart said:

Lesson 6 part 2

I wanted to see what happens on letters like "i" and "j" to see if the script will do the dot on the I.  It sure does, I guess because the character is both of those elements.  This script is really fun and addictive.  

The second thing I wanted to know.  How thick or thin can the stroke be?  I tested 5 px and 20 px and makes no visual difference to me.  The reason for this test is so I can duplicate the vector and have a layer that has a stroke and no fill.  And the bottom Vector layer has a fill and a very small 1-5 px stroke.  That gave me the opportunity to to be able to reduce the opacity of the vector layer with the fill, and be able to manipulate the stroke layer on it's own.  One issue that came up with the font (is the pipe cleaner can't make such a bend as shown, so the stroke showed through).  It was an easy fix as I had the stroked object layer to use, I just hid the Vector outline layer and it was gone.  I really like this lesson.

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Vector WS Lesson 6 Text 3-300x600.jpg

Vector WS Lesson 6 Text-issue to watch for.jpg

Wow Susan you really had fun playing with the vector tube script!

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5 hours ago, Anne Lamp said:

I am way behind in this challenge for various reasons.  One thing I can't figure out is how to increase the size of the size of the NODES so I can wee them better. I know Cassel said how to do it, but I can't figure out how to access the place to do that.  It is probably one of those DUH things, but I just can't get my head around it. Without doing this I get frustrated every tome I try to do anything. My eyes aren't as good as they used to be and my screen is not very large.

 

Anne - I have the same problem. From the menu bar, go to View and find Customize. From there, find the Options tab and you will be able to change the size of the nodes, icons, and scroll bars. It's easy to change back and forth depending on what you need to do.

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For the last lesson I made this. I first used the Vector Spiral script, it is a free one and is in a Featured Resources blogpost quite some time ago. I use it once in a while, sometimes with text or other picture tubes. After making the spiral which already is a path, I made the cutouts and then ran the Vector Tube script with a beads tube in the national colors of the Netherlands. I know I did something similar last year but it was among the things I lost when I had some computer problems earlier this year.

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Day 7.

One of the challenges with this one was grabbing hold of the correct node to move after cutting. I learned not to move the node too far before you determine it's the correct one. I had to start over a couple of times because I couldn't get it back in place to line up with the full shape.

Carole - Thank you for the reminder about Vectors in Action. I recall that all of the Vector masterclasses were great. I'll definitely go back to watch them again.

After every workshop I think about the Mickey Mouse song: Now it's time to say goodbye to all our company. See you real soon!

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14 hours ago, Ann Seeber said:

Suz, from here it looks like the background color varies and that exact spot is close to the color of the text. Possibly??

Ah, that might it it.  I'll look into it.  the full size one has more resolution so the color isnt an issue, I should change the text color I think, just to be sure.

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5 hours ago, Donna Pearson said:

Hi Anne.  I had difficultly with that too.  Go to User Interface at the top of the screen above the tool bar.  Click on that and you will get various options you can alter, including font size, text size, and node sizes.  Mine is now set to large.  Shame there's no Extra Large!!  Hahaha

I also changed mine, then changed them back again.  when they are bigger (and way easier to see) you still have to click in the middle.  I found I was missing the middle so I went back to the small ones (why are they this small anyway?) and zoom in.  

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56 minutes ago, Corrie Kinkel said:

Wow Susan you really had fun playing with the vector tube script!

It really is fun to try out different tubes, I have a huge file with the different tube, just from playing.  I'm glad Carole showed us in the video to just hide the one.  One thing I learned is that I had my "create as a raster layer" check box checked so I was getting an empty "stroked object" layer and then the actual stroke object in the raster layer it created above.  Too many layers!  glad I saw that and unchecked it.

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43 minutes ago, Corrie Kinkel said:

For the last lesson I made this. I first used the Vector Spiral script, it is a free one and is in a Featured Resources blogpost quite some time ago. I use it once in a while, sometimes with text or other picture tubes. After making the spiral which already is a path, I made the cutouts and then ran the Vector Tube script with a beads tube in the national colors of the Netherlands. I know I did something similar last year but it was among the things I lost when I had some computer problems earlier this year.

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This is awesome Corrie.  I remember this lesson was challenging for me.  I hope this year I'm better.  I should look and see if I have the vector spiral script, it look really neat.  

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35 minutes ago, Gerry Landreth said:

Day 7.

One of the challenges with this one was grabbing hold of the correct node to move after cutting. I learned not to move the node too far before you determine it's the correct one. I had to start over a couple of times because I couldn't get it back in place to line up with the full shape.

Carole - Thank you for the reminder about Vectors in Action. I recall that all of the Vector masterclasses were great. I'll definitely go back to watch them again.

After every workshop I think about the Mickey Mouse song: Now it's time to say goodbye to all our company. See you real soon!

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Gerry, you always do such beautiful work.  The flowers on the G is so pretty.  

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Thanks for your messages, Carole, it certainly helps.
I raced ahead yesterday and created an image using my initials. I even put them on a metal wire, and then, today, we had this one to do so it worked well.
Yesterdays attempt with jellybeans
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and today's attempt using Carole's brass bead and colourising it.
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Jeni

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7 hours ago, Donna Pearson said:

Hi Anne.  I had difficultly with that too.  Go to User Interface at the top of the screen above the tool bar.  Click on that and you will get various options you can alter, including font size, text size, and node sizes.  Mine is now set to large.  Shame there's no Extra Large!!  Hahaha

Thank you so much, now if i get time I will go back and try all if them.  It makes all the difference when you know WHERE to look for something. 

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3 hours ago, Susan Ewart said:

Gerry, you always do such beautiful work.  The flowers on the G is so pretty.  

Thank you for the encouragement. Carole's flowers were a happy accident. After clicking through so many options, that one popped up.

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59 minutes ago, Jeni Simpson said:

You are all such creative people here, and your work motivates me to improve my vector skills. 
Thank you, Carole, and everyone.
Next Vector Workshop, maybe?
Jeni

Awww, Jeni, that's so kind of you to say.  The feeling is mutual, I'd be no where without all campus members.  It really does take a community (to raise a PSP-er).  

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9 hours ago, Cassel said:

First, change the Selection Mode from Pressure to something else. It does not explain the greyscale image though. How is it when you use it manually and not in a script? Still greyscale? That is very odd. You might want to open the actual picture tube file for that flower and see if the image is still in colors or not. If it is in colors, re-export it to see if it solves the problem.

Well, my face is red.  Pressure was it and when I opened PSP again it was back to the setting and normal again.  but the most embarrassing thing.....There is I think 5 different flowers in this tube and somehow (the settings I was messing with) caused it to just have the one flower, which looked similar to the yellow one (which shows up so tiny).  What I was trying to do was to make the tube that normally is random in placement, be not random, but come out one after another and I chose bad settings.  This is for sure, user error.  Thanks for seeing the pressure setting (I'm not even sure what that setting does).  

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@Mary Solaas That life preserver was a perfect shape to do a cutout! For the text, I see that one is a Text object and the other is a Path object. What did you do between the two?

@Daniel Hess When you say that you pasted a second time and it didn't do anything, could it have been "invisible" because it would land outside of a current vector? Just guessing here.

@Donna Pearson I am always trying to help when someone is stuck. You are doing great now!

@Trevor Andrew I am glad to see how you are now able to troubleshoot your own process! That is good as it will help in the future.

@Bonnie BorntragerIf you need more hair, there is a set of free hair picture tubes you can get in this blog post. 🙂 But now that you know how to do all those projects, you shouldn't lose anymore!

@Anne Lamp You can change the size of the nodes if you go to the User Interface menu on the right of the menus. Donna and Trevor already mentioned it so you might have already changed it.

@middie I have a Picture Tubes Workshop on my to-do list, but I have others too so I am not sure it will come this year. But stay tuned! I see you were playing with the buttons script. I suspect (and it is not wrong) that you changed the Selection mode to Angular for the blue buttons. That is why all the buttons on the horizontal line are the same then the vertical line too, etc. Depending on the angle of the path, a specific button is selected and once the angle changes, the button changes. For the pink buttons, you probably had the Selection mode set to Random (which is the default). See how you can play with the settings and get very different results!

@Randy I can see a lot more play in your future. Vectors might be intimidating at first, but like any other tool, once you understand the basics, the rest just falls in place.

@Susan EwartDo you know that the VectorTube script is the very first script I used? I managed to "open it up" and wanted to know the steps to follow a path with a picture tube; I wanted to write a tutorial on how to do it manually. Well, I never found out because I could not understand what all that "gibberish" was, but it got be curious about scripts, and once I found Suz' scripting course, I was hooked! Have you figured out something about your greyscale flowers? For the Stroke width, one thing to note: in 2023, with SOME fonts, if you have two matching texts and one has 0 for stroke and another one has a thicker font, they might not line up. It seems to be a bug and it affects only SOME fonts, so if you ever notice that, you didn't do anything wrong, and you can then set a stroke of 0.1 in the same color as the fill and it will look "invisible". For the Pressure setting, it is used when you have a graphic tablet set to apply pressure (I never use that with mine) so that you get a different tube based on the amount of pressure. It is really weird and I have never made much sense of it, so I don't use it!

@Corrie KinkelWow! That was and advanced project! You get bonus points for those cut paths!

@Gerry LandrethI agree with you that it is not always easy to grab the correct node after cutting a path. Zooming in helps but they still look like one larger node. The best trick is to click a little off the center of that big node, in the direction where you expect the side node to be. USUALLY it works.

@Donna Sillia Yes, VectorPaint has also a lot of potential. VectorStroke is another one in the series but it is a little less intuitive to use. I might play with it in the next Q&A session following Ann's question.

@Jeni Simpson Personally, I would have wanted more jellybeans!!! If you want more, you can change the Placement mode to Continuous instead of Random. That will make the spacing more regular and then the Step value will determine the real spacing. Just another setting to play with.

@Alicia GarbelmanGlad you managed to deal with life on time to join in the workshop. I love that photo!!!!!

@Anja PelzerWhat a way to practice and combine lessons. Don't tell me that vectors intimidate you anymore. I would not believe you!

You still have a few more days to continue your lessons if you are behind. The videos will stay up until next Sunday. Remember to fill out the survey to share your opinion on this workshop (a link will come in an email). I am particularly happy to see some new "faces" in this workshop!

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1 hour ago, Cassel said:

@Jeni Simpson Personally, I would have wanted more jellybeans!!! If you want more, you can change the Placement mode to Continuous instead of Random. That will make the spacing more regular and then the Step value will determine the real spacing. Just another setting to play with.

You still have a few more days to continue your lessons if you are behind. The videos will stay up until next Sunday. Remember to fill out the survey to share your opinion on this workshop (a link will come in an email). I am particularly happy to see some new "faces" in this workshop!

Thank you, Carole, I wasn't sure whether that could be done, and added the wire to hold them together. 
I appreciate all your comments to everyone, they help immensely.
Jeni

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@Mary Solaas That life preserver was a perfect shape to do a cutout! For the text, I see that one is a Text object and the other is a Path object. What did you do between the two?

@Cassel - I used the text tool as I normally do and typed my text.  Normally, the text shows up in the layer beneath and is not blank. To get it to show up in the layer underneath I used the pen tool. I've never had to do that before. If I wanted to use the vector tube script on a letter, I just typed the letter and it was a path. So, I'm not sure what happened this time.

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Carole, on the "invisible" question, I don't believe so...it disappeared when I CUT it from the base image and showed up for final repositioning after pasting.  It just (many times) did NOT paste the cutout (transparent) into the original vector.  The "undo" to the Reverse Path command with a new Reverse Path inserted in the process worked.  I'm sure I have been doing something wrong but the only thing I can think is using the "Select None" after creating a selection to change multiple nodes to Symmetrical...I couldn't seem to get it back into edit mode any other way.

Anyhow, I finished the 16 cups rendition AND some of them with additional cutouts. Also Lessons 6 and 7.  I did NOT do the text part of that...I just went for a real complex "cut with knife" thing on a circle using a compass layer to divide it equally into 4 parts.  Here are the results.  

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Lesson 7

Went pretty good, especially when I think it's a hard lesson, it turned out to be straight forward.  The tricky part is grabbing the right node after the cut.  Like Gerry said, it's hard to reposition the node you didnt want to be moving.  I ended up pushing it back (if I picked the wrong one) very slightly then I could see the other node I really wanted to be grabbing.  when I say see, I mean I had it zoomed in very close and when you move one node underneath it, the other node shows up.  Only 4 cuts of all the cuts I made was the correct node I wanted to grab to move away and delete.  I used undo a lot and learned to nudge the node into itself and not to the side as it would get too distorted.  I really love this technique.  On the Q I wanted to see if the lower cross bar was possible to isolate and it was.  It's really interesting to see fonts with nodes, I forget about that, I could also be manipulating those fonts too...didnt we learn that in a master class or the Text Workshop?

Thank you Carole.  Even with some stumbling blocks, I felt way better going through this workshop for the second time.  I'll get my question together (about the rocket) this week.  Thanks again for a great workshop.  

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