2nd day. I did make some labels, but I know how to export them to shapes, however, I didn't export these - I simply made them in png format (saved the pspimage) and will display them in jpg. The second one using 2 different shapes, I tried looking at outlining them and also trying label styles - bevel. It was interesting on the 2nd one - I wanted the 2 flower shapes to be under the rectangle, although the rectangle was not the top one in my group - so I had to move that layer to the top. Working with Group with vectors is interesting - I don't know if I have really played around with multiple shapes in a group before - well, maybe when I created the Interstate Sign.