Suzy Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I thought this was Kaleidoscope, but I cant get it to work out! I have a striped paper...and I want to get to the more interesting paper next to it. It looks like it has been quartered, but I tried that and I couldn't get the pieces to fit with arrows in the middle. I can ask on the forum where I found the LO, but you know they'll answer in Photoshop-speak One thing to note is that the stripes in the LO are approximately 50% of the size of the paper in the kit...you can see it. I just know the answer is in Effects --> Reflection Effects, but I've spent an hour on it and that's my limit on floundering around. :)) Suzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassel Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Possibly the Rotating Mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 perhapse this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 You’re both right, I’m sure, except I can”t get the “arrows” to point in on all 4 sides. Mine looks like Pirkko’s. (And I’m sure it's the Rotating Mirror, which is actually what I meant when I said Kaleidoscope, but now I’m also pretty sure there are 4 layers and you remove 3/4 of a layer from each layer. This from memory, though, of a long time ago.) Our power went out so it will have to wait for the morning now. I’m on an iPad, so I can send this, but not test any more ideas. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Marker Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I just looked at the original layout and it looks to me like she shrunk the 12x12 paper to 4x4 (edit should be 6x6) and placed it in the 4 quadrants of the page, flipping each layer to line up the middle. I say this because another layout shown using the kit shows the stripes on the paper as being a wider than on her layout. I could be totally wrong but that is what it looks like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Marker Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I just tried this. I opened a 3600x3600 canvas. I then opened a 3600x3600 paper from a kit. I resized the paper to 50% and duplicated the layer 3 times. I then placed each layer in a different quadrant lining each one up with the pick tool (yeah, guide lines would work but I have trouble with those since I don't use them much). After getting all layers in place, I did an Image Flip Horizontal on the top right and bottom left quadrants. Middle line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 That is perfect, Rene!! I have an image of how I tried that - more or less - but I'm embarrassed to post it. So I won't. Once you get the hard part finished -- the resizing and lining up -- After getting all layers in place, I did an Image Flip Horizontal on the top right and bottom left quadrants. Middle line up. I think that's where the Rotating Mirror comes in. But really, after you do all the hard part, what's a little flip, right? Thank you so much for doing this! I need to put it in a document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Marker Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I did not use Rotating Mirror at all. I used Flip Horizontal under the Image menu. Ctrl-M is the shortcut. FWIW, I tried it with Rotating Mirror and could not get it to do what you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Solaas Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I couldn't find the same choices under rotating mirror that Pirkko has shown - I think it is from another package. I worked it out using the method described above about reducing the first 45 angle of the striped paper and then putting it in the upper right quadrant of a new paper and then duplicating it and putting the duplicates mirrored or flipped in the other 3 quadrants. I came up with 2 different bulls eye papers as shown below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Mary, These look useful, but they are both "pointing" out, not in. Rene's test1 (Reply #80734) is the only one that is exactly as the example. I find it interesting that there can be so many variations for essentially the same thing, and that I only want one of them, LOL! I'm not usually so picky! And she's right on the resizing. The paper in this kit is so bland, but when it is resized down and with the piecing I think it has more personality. Suzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Pirkko, What would happen if you merged the quadrants in Reply #80691 and then cut in half vertically and reversed right side and left side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 The first photo is what I came up with using Rene's directions. It doesn't quite match up The second photo is what I came up with starting over and then somewhere in there using Rotating Mirror, Wrap, 90 degrees. Don't know whether I could replicate it, or not, tho LOL! If anybody wants one of these full size, let me know. The original came from Marisa Lehin @ pixelscrapper, CU, so it's been changed enough to be passed around without violating the TOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Marker Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I'm curious as to what the original paper looked like. I've searched her stuff and can't find one that looks like it would match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Okay, so I'm editing this because I got my threads mixed up. I clicked a link from email and thought I knew what he topic was. And then I got my designers mixed up at Pixel scrapper. I just meant they all came from Marissa's Store, my bad. Here's the link for the above https://www.digitalscrapbook.com/sharon-dewi-stolp/designs/for-the-love-of-chocolate-paper-stripes-diagonal-graphic-pattern-blue. To be honest I just picked one I thought was namby-pamby (for non-native English speakers, it means "meh" or "dull and boring". LOL!) But The ORIGINAL from the OTHER Thread came from here. I would link to the kit, but I'm not sure i can do that here, so I'll add the preview pic. :)) See how it isn't exactly 45 degrees? My first attempt was to make it a 45 degree stripe - DISASTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Marker Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Yeah, that is probably the problem. I just tried it with a different paper that has thin and thick stripes. The thick stripes have wording on them and I was curious how it would look. The stripes are the right degree (bottom left to top right). The top 2 quadrants were fine but the bottom 2 didn't line up at all. So I really think that to do this needs the right paper. In other words, not every paper will work for this technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Solaas Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I tried it the way Rene did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Solaas Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 OK - did it Rene's way and this is what I came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Perfect, Mary! Yes, Rene's way is perfect as long as the stripes are all the same thickness. It needs a different method if the stripes have different thicknesses, or are different in any way except color - one more step, I guess you'd say. The last step is to merge the layers and do the Mirror rotate, 90 degrees. I changed horses mid-stream and accidentally chose a stripe with different thicknesses, well, it wasn't an accident, I just didn't notice and didn't know it would end up being important. I recorded a script to do all this, and I was moving right along, with GUIDES and everything!!! But I don't know where the script text went! I started, did my thing, and then stopped it. I went to look at the script to admire my handiwork and all that came up was the last script I used, which was one of Carole's! Clearly I am not yet ready for Prime Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Solaas Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Well, Suzy - yes you are right! this is the one I did above, but I did do rotating mirror and set it to 90 degrees. I compared it to the one I had done before and there is a definite difference - a finishing touch. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Thomas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 As always there is more than one way to achieve any effect in PSP. Once you understand the principles of rotating, flipping and mirror it is easy. I always use guides, snap to guides, they are very accurate when moving elements papers etc, and easy to use. Worth, getting used to using them or the grid. Resize the original paper, using the guides, you'll see 2 corners will change to red, which means that it is snapped, duplicate, move to the top right, free rotate 90 degrees to the right, merge them both. Duplicate, mirror vertical, you may have to use the guides to align them precisely. And there you have it. I sometimes feel that some over think, making a simple process more difficult than it really is. Using different thickness of lines in the pattern will not make any difference when using the technique I have given here. Pirkko used a filter, which I believe she would have obtained from an outside source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 Yes, Sue, that's really great. I'm looking for a slightly different pattern as shown in Mary's #80959 Reply or my #80926 Reply. It looks like arrows all pointing in for lack of better description as opposed to a square middle of yours where the arrows point out. (not a great description, but take a look) Maybe if you mirrored the two panels on the right and switched them with the left side it would all point in? I'm probably over complicating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassel Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 OK, all this talk has triggered my script button. How about a script that will take a striped paper and turn it to something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Thomas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Same striped paper, different direction. Resize the page to fit in the top left corner, using the guides to be accurate. duplicate, mirror vertical. Free rotate 180 degrees right. Merge down. Duplicate. Mirror horizontal. Sounds good Carole. Once you know what tools to use, and work out in what order to use the free rotate, mirror,and flip, you can create several different patterns from the one striped paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Thomas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Carole, I'm curious to know what tools you used in the script, did you use the rotating mirror, or something similar to my way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassel Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 No, I didn't use the Rotating Mirror (because I have something else in mind too), so I just used the regular Rotate command, with the Flip and Mirror too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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