Wow, look what happens when I go to work. Wish I’d stayed home! I’m going to pour through these (and copy them to a word doc for future use). Right now need a tea and a rest, it was a long exhausting day. Thank you all for helping me. There is some stuff that made my head spin when I read it, but I think if I go through it slowly and look at the program files as you describe them I might get a better understanding. It does sound like the missing preset shapes could be there, just hiding in plain sight.
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