Just had a few minutes when I got home from work to try this technique. Page 64/65 in the “Tips & Tricks for PaintShop Pro” . This tip is called “Paper Filled Text” and it’s about creating your text as a selection instead of a vector. I had seen it in various layouts and thought it was really nice looking. But I wondered how do they do that. I have been reviewing the book when I get home from work to settle my mind before I head off to bed and too my surprise there it was, the answer. I moved the text a bit into the rust to make it look like the text was growing out of the rust. I love the layouts I’m seeing. thank you all for the wonder gifts we are getting. Now that the Christmas rush is over (at work) I might actually get to play a bit.